tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post6125147534740357090..comments2024-01-26T07:30:31.571+01:00Comments on Kielbasa Stories: What's all the hubbub? Abortion Law in PolandChrishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05384854442041889558noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-4178483707375282012016-04-27T15:21:20.624+02:002016-04-27T15:21:20.624+02:00Koniec Koniec Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384854442041889558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-42718269184537021042016-04-27T14:30:02.967+02:002016-04-27T14:30:02.967+02:00''For a lot of people, their first love is...''For a lot of people, their first love is what they'll always remember. For me it's always been the first hate, and I think that hatred, though it provides often rather junky energy, is a terrific way of getting you out of bed in the morning and keeping you going...''. (Christopher Hitchens). ''But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you''. (Jesus, Matthew 5). Says it all really.... God bless you and give you His peace. TMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803206843288991773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-73238871855705545742016-04-27T12:20:33.315+02:002016-04-27T12:20:33.315+02:00Tried hard, but I'm giving up - it's beyon...Tried hard, but I'm giving up - it's beyond my expertise. <br />Thanks, Tracy, for reminding me why I don't want to belong into any religious community. <br />And yes, I'm a believer. In Hitchens :)czarownicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05851827590215353327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-52675564210263112112016-04-27T02:16:04.886+02:002016-04-27T02:16:04.886+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.TMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803206843288991773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-47009309842142751532016-04-26T11:32:11.300+02:002016-04-26T11:32:11.300+02:00Me neither. But you seem to have attracted the pre...Me neither. But you seem to have attracted the preacher or the apostle, Chris, good grief!<br />That's the usual problem with the believers - you can't trust their promises, ever.<br /><br />Tracy, I'm glad you're not my patient. You can't even imagine how much :)<br />I believe I know almost everything about all sorts of contraceptives, as I'm practising it on a daily basis and updating my knowledge FROM RELIABLE SOURCES constantly. Opposite to yourself, who reads rubbish from the internet and gets excited. Don't you really have anything else to get excited about, poor thing?<br /><br />Yes, in unlucky women, usually with some sort of familial blood clotting condition, the pill can cause a stroke. Some may even die from it. This doesn't mean we should screen everybody we prescribe the pill for, as it would be unreasonable. We try to prescribe safely, following criteria. But even then things may happen.<br />People are and will be dying from side effects of medications, vaccines, procedures. We can only try to minimise risks, nothing more.<br />But at the end of the day, that's the Lord's decision, so get on with it, will ya?czarownicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05851827590215353327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-1436340495828341422016-04-25T21:22:44.713+02:002016-04-25T21:22:44.713+02:00Speaking for myself, I am not.Speaking for myself, I am not.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384854442041889558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-32270895314022300902016-04-25T15:13:45.219+02:002016-04-25T15:13:45.219+02:00Ha ha it was...I thought u and the other ladies mi...Ha ha it was...I thought u and the other ladies might be interested in some further reading :)TMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803206843288991773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-30694945843236159762016-04-25T07:20:03.201+02:002016-04-25T07:20:03.201+02:00I thought the sermon was over?I thought the sermon was over?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384854442041889558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-43405056034190851712016-04-25T00:49:00.359+02:002016-04-25T00:49:00.359+02:00You are really not interested to learn from the ar...You are really not interested to learn from the article that the birth control pill is an experiment, that it causes strokes...that the 'authorities' knew all this over 40 years ago but have covered it up...risking the health of millions of women....and you are some kind of a doctor are you? I am glad you are not my doctor! TMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803206843288991773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-32013497678092091012016-04-25T00:29:44.492+02:002016-04-25T00:29:44.492+02:00https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/former-satani...https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/former-satanist-i-performed-satanic-rituals-inside-abortion-clinics TMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803206843288991773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-31179194748582243722016-04-25T00:28:03.248+02:002016-04-25T00:28:03.248+02:00Here's a great testimony from an American ex S...Here's a great testimony from an American ex Satanist who assisted at 146 abortions, performing satanic rituals whilst the 'procedure' was carried out...he now travels the world testifying that abortion is a satanic ritual and trying to warn people to turn to God...enjoy! TMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803206843288991773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-82444432823514948852016-04-24T21:18:46.623+02:002016-04-24T21:18:46.623+02:00Tracey, give us a break, would you? Nobody is inte...Tracey, give us a break, would you? Nobody is interested, don't you really get it?czarownicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05851827590215353327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-4265129164689781902016-04-23T21:21:48.951+02:002016-04-23T21:21:48.951+02:00Just one of numerous articles trying to get the tr...Just one of numerous articles trying to get the truth out there for women https://www.hormonesmatter.com/stroke-birth-control-nelson-pill-hearings/ TMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803206843288991773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-19896679294220554602016-04-17T22:50:28.273+02:002016-04-17T22:50:28.273+02:00I love it how even in the 21st century supposedly ...I love it how even in the 21st century supposedly educated people don't understand the idea of the separation of church and state... And it's especially sad that so many of them are Polish. I'm embarrassed. <br /><br />In America, we're only a generation away from the dumb polak jokes. I'm worried that the current shenanigans in Poland will bring it back... <br /><br />Dorota in ColoradoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-17786542188172134102016-04-16T18:14:36.763+02:002016-04-16T18:14:36.763+02:00Anon, see now what I meant?
Tracy, may your god bl...Anon, see now what I meant?<br />Tracy, may your god bless you and leave me alone :)czarownicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05851827590215353327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-5953379610600849302016-04-16T17:35:19.907+02:002016-04-16T17:35:19.907+02:00Anon - How do you propose I compromise with Tracy?...Anon - How do you propose I compromise with Tracy? Or she with me?<br /><br />To reiterate, the current law is called a compromise - between the church and the government. For me the church isn't a party in discussion, but that is how the compromise stands. It allows abortion in tightly restricted cases. It is too conservative for me, but I am satisfied with it. Tracy doesn't live in Poland, but from what she has written, it's too liberal for her because she supports a ban on abortion. She doesn't agree that abortion is okay in those situations. Her beliefs which are hers and also that of her church are known to us. It's not that I don't understand her. It's not that I don't want to discuss it, but where can I go with the argument that I should find my way home, that I support murder, etc. I can agree to something more conservative than my belief, but can someone who is completely against abortion agree to something more liberal than their belief? Where is our compromise? <br /><br />To those critical of my protest, I am protesting in the name of compromise, to keep the current law which for me already is a compromise.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384854442041889558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-3782771030693478422016-04-16T15:31:26.094+02:002016-04-16T15:31:26.094+02:00I agree with czar, we are not imposing our way of ...I agree with czar, we are not imposing our way of thinking on anyone. As for respecting others beliefs, it is obvious from comments such as the one above that my beliefs are not respected, but I don't care. No one has to respect my beliefs, but I ask only to respect my right to those beliefs.<br /><br />I also agree with czar that the compromise which is the current law was satisfactory, too conservative for some, too liberal for others but a compromise. I'm protesting to keep it.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384854442041889558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-83227142932052442252016-04-16T15:21:22.155+02:002016-04-16T15:21:22.155+02:00Fanatical indeed! I pray everyone of you find your...Fanatical indeed! I pray everyone of you find your way home! The alternative is not great.... Revelation 22:14 'Blessed are those who wash their robes that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go though the gates into the city. Outside will be the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood..I Jesus have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches'. don't say you weren't warned lovies! Ok... sermon over... ;) TMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803206843288991773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-92151877686491213622016-04-16T14:07:30.913+02:002016-04-16T14:07:30.913+02:00Give us a break, of course. Give a brake to the fa...Give us a break, of course. Give a brake to the fanatics rather :)czarownicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05851827590215353327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-40861170539863087372016-04-16T14:06:17.240+02:002016-04-16T14:06:17.240+02:00Anon, sorry - in comparison to Tracy I'm not i...Anon, sorry - in comparison to Tracy I'm not imposing my beliefs on anybody. I'm not limiting women' choice to the only one "right" solution, as per my only "right" religion.<br />"The Good News" is "Dobra Nowina" - the term used by Catholics, who feel they have to tell everybody about their wonderful religion. And no matter if you tell them you're an atheist, agnostic or other non-believer, a Buddhist, Hinduism, Muslim, Orthodox or any other religion follower, they feel they must evangelise you, agrrhhh... That's why I said nobody was interested, give us a brake. I'm open to everybody's opinions, but react with allergy if any believers are trying to rule the politics putting us all back to the Middle Ages.<br /><br />The sensible, although very frail, compromise in Polish abortion law exists already, why to try and damage it? That's what Polish church and national-socialist politicians are currently trying to do, so may be you should re-consider what you said and how you appraised us, hmm?czarownicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05851827590215353327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-14586969330728939112016-04-16T03:12:19.686+02:002016-04-16T03:12:19.686+02:00The two of you - Chris and Tracy - are the perfect...The two of you - Chris and Tracy - are the perfect micro level example of the situation in Poland = compromise will never be reached. It is either one or the other. <br /><br />What is the point of getting out there Chris and protesting this or that if you can't, don't want to, or an unable to engage in a discussion with the other side? Or czarownica - "your church is yours, not ours. Please keep "the Good News" to yourself, NOBODY'S REALLY INTERESTED" What a brilliantly flawed comment. My dear czarownica (I also am a witch), first - do you keep your "good news" (and what did you exactly mean by that? Sorry - I'm rather slow ;P ) to yourself? If not, you have no right to make such suggestions to Tracy, and second - czarownica - you SHOULD be interested in what the other side has to say if you want to make a real policy change. And I think that you are - why otherwise would you bother with a reply? <br /><br />Ughh, you people - both sides - drive me crazy. But whatever. Continue your senseless "I respect your beliefs. Mine, however, are the correct ones" debates. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-25799253268868533892016-04-14T23:09:31.627+02:002016-04-14T23:09:31.627+02:00Tracy, your church is yours, not ours. Please keep...Tracy, your church is yours, not ours. Please keep "The Good News" to yourself, nobody's really interested :)<br />czarownicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05851827590215353327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-46903418440419593512016-04-14T00:27:09.784+02:002016-04-14T00:27:09.784+02:00i see you are still talking :) in my opinion abort...i see you are still talking :) in my opinion abortion law won't be changed. You are temporary winning Chrisbitowonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-13132320109985237062016-04-13T18:11:08.857+02:002016-04-13T18:11:08.857+02:00The teachings of my Church echo my deeply consider...The teachings of my Church echo my deeply considered views also...therefore the above is also my argument, not just that of my church. Regarding the foregoing, as I said, I am keeping you all in prayer.... :) sorry, I couldn't resist. ..TMLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803206843288991773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2489825674468647913.post-71613884573874465172016-04-13T14:49:27.930+02:002016-04-13T14:49:27.930+02:00I support sexual gratification. I support sexual e...I support sexual gratification. I support sexual education. I support access to contraception. I agree that sex plays an important role in married life. I do not believe sex is reserved for marriage. I believe that sex may be engaged in lightly or seriously or anything in between. I do not feel damaged psychologically or emotionally by any of my consensual sexual encounters. My dignity and self respect remain in tact because I am in control of my choices and decisions. Before you say that I am saying you are not, please recall my explanation above. I am describing myself. If I believed what you believe, I would join your church. I do not share those beliefs, hence I am not a member and do not subscribe to them. They have no bearing on my life. Repeating the teachings of your church here is no argument for non-members or non-believers.<br /><br />I do not share your opinion on conception, life, death, and abortion. <br /><br />A member of our family is also the product of rape, so do not implore me/us to get real. Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384854442041889558noreply@blogger.com